Re: “Guide to the Kolbrin” by Yvonne Whiteman
Â« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2015, 09:03:46 AM Â»
Quote from: Len on October 22, 2015, 12:14:07 PM
Must agree with all of that, j, except no emotional reaction on my part should be implied or inferred
ok, maybe to much interpretation from my side. Please excuse it.
Here i have some questions and comments i put between the text:
“No-one knows what the word â€˜Kolbrinâ€™ means. Itâ€™s probably a garbled version of the Welsh word Coelbren, meaning either the name of a village south-west of the Brecon Beacons National Park, or Coelbren y Beirdd, a supposed â€˜druidicâ€™ alphabet allegedly invented by the writer Iolo Morganwg (1747-1826) whose validity has been questioned by scholars. Some have suggested that Iolo Morganwg himself forged the Kolbrin, but my research says no.”
(What did your research reveal here?)
Itâ€™s what my research DIDNâ€™T reveal that matters. How could Morganwyg have forged what DNA and archaeological evidence have only recently authenticated?
“[…] we know that the manuscripts were looked after by a group called the Culdians who were descended from a 14th-century Scottish community led by a man called John Culdy” (I can not find any information on a John Culdy who lived at that time. That of course does not mean that he never existed, but how do you know this? What is your source here except the introduction of the Kolbrin?).
You will note that in the section of my article headed â€˜Reading the Kolbrinâ€™, I say, â€˜Well, according to the Introductionâ€¦â€™ Grammatically, this phrase is intended to apply to the succeeding paragraphs as well as to the paragraph in which it appears.
“The text was modernised in the late 19th/early 20th century, incorporating some salvaged Celtic manuscripts which had not been transcribed on to metal plates, known as the Coelbook. We also know that for a period of time the Kolbrin was buried under a stone cairn in the mountains of Wales.” (We know? Who is the narrative here and how do you know?)
“During the 1920s and 1930s these books were kept by a little-known religious group. During World War II the books were thrown out as worthless junk, then salvaged.” (Source?)
Ditto. A member of the Culdian Trust can affirm that the man who brought the documents over to New Zealand for her to put on the computer belonged to a hermetic society â€“ but as I emphasise in the article, the provenance needs to be established and is a huge stumbling block. I never said it wasn’t.
" […] I have been researching here, there and everywhere to find links with other ancient works and locate archaeological and DNA evidence" (A reputable but unrewarding effort it seems).
Thank you for thisâ€¦ (Irony)
“The underlying story
Beneath its overriding metaphysical texts The Kolbrin carries an underlying story â€“ and itâ€™s a fascinating one, with its themes of genetics, global catastrophes and the search for immortality. Below is a rough outline story I have patched together from the various books. Every scrap of information you read has been gleaned from the Egyptian and Celtic books, with brief links in red to a few of the more important discoveries and identifications made since the publication of the Kolbrin in 1994.”
I will not comment any of the follwing text as the author already stated that the information has been gleaned from the kolbrin.
“1- The late Professor Ilia Vekua with giant-size bones from 2008 expedition in Georgia”
I went to the stated source (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/) and searched for Ilia Vekua. No results. Internet search revealed someone with that name. Ilya Vekua was a distinguished Georgian mathematician, specializing in partial differential equations, singular integral equations, generalized analytic functions and the mathematical theory of elastic shells. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilia_Vekua)
There is no work and no study that connects him to Paleoanthropology (a detailed list of his work can be found here http://www.viam.science.tsu.ge/profiles/Ilia_Vekua)
I found a website with an interesting email communication. Heres the noteworthy mail:
From: Marc Meyer [mailto:Marc.Meyer@chaffey.edu]
Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011 8:38 AM
To: Terje Dahl
Subject: RE: Georgia large bones
No such bones exist. Lee Berger is referring to robust bones - not the bones of giant humans. No such bones have ever been found anywhere. There is no evidence that such a race has ever existed. Photoshop is a great tool for falsifying images on the internet - but there are no such physical remains. If a single bone of a giant had ever been found it would be front page news and science would thoroughly examine and report on the findings. The fact that some obscure website is the only evidence for such a discovery should suggest to you that this is nonsense. Unless it’s a massive conspiracy to suppress evidence, this is pure silliness. But there is no reason for a cover-up or conspiracy to hide this kind of evidence because this would be important, newsworthy, and the scientist who finds such evidence would become a household name - like Howard Carter who discovered the tomb of King Tut. I’m wondering; are you seeking confirmation for a biblical passage?
Marc R. Meyer, PhD
Dept. of Social & Behavioral Sciences
5885 Haven Avenue
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91737
"3- Legendary neckless man from a race which Greek geographer Strabo called the Blemmyes "
The source here leads to a gaming forum (http://heroescommunity.com/).: â€žSo, What is the Heroes Community (HC, as we abbreviate)?
Well, that is a question you should ask every member that visits the board every so often. It is truly one of the best forums that are
Not only it is one of the best forums on the net that are mostly dedicated to the never-ending Heroes of Might and Magic series, but also a forum of everlasting fun and immeasurable joy.â€œ (http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=17938)
My search on the forum for blemmyes revealed â€žno posts that match the selected criteria.â€œ
But there is a lot of evidence of a nubian tribe named blemmyes (Strabon, GeÃ´graphikÃ¡ 17, 2; 17, 53)
Interesting is also this book https://books.google.de/books?id=Q1gX0IFEAFoC&pg=PA25&dq=blemmyer&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAmoVChMIu9juuZXXyAIVAzYaCh2HMgOg#v=onepage&q=blemmyer&f=false
It is written in german. The author says here, that the blemmyes have been mentioned comparatively often in ancient sources. Altogether 68 texts that refer to the blemmyes. Starting from the 7th century BC to the 6th century AD. There are some mentions of their appearance, but nothing very unusual. All of the headless stories seem to come from hearsay.
All of the well informed authors (Strabon, Olympiodor and Prokop) do not coincide with anything among themselves. Neither where they lived, how many there were, who their neighboors were or how they lived.
Mentionable is the final conclusion of the author. Something like: It can be said, that not behind every fantastic folk/tribe there exists an ethnicity in reality, but that names and odd imagination can immingle in the sources.
â€žEven if an ethnic like â€˜Blemmyesâ€™ is a fluid term that
stands for a more complex reality, it can be expected that certain tribes would have emphasized their solidarity in the face of the greater powers of the Nile Valleyâ€œ
â€žI hope to have shown that the ethnic term â€˜Blemmyesâ€™
should be used with extreme care because it was used in a generalizing way by outsiders, whereas the term probably included a wide variety of different groups of people living between the Red Sea and the Nile Valley.â€
[b]I refer you to the comment I have just put at the bottom of the article:
Yvonne Whiteman says:
It has been brought to my attention that a text reference and most of the picture sources I have given only lead to website home pages and not to the text/pictures themselves. Apologies for this. I now list the location references below. Please note that the picture of blemmyae is taken from a photographic library of images and not from an article on blemmyae, ditto the pic of Corineus and the giant. I chose the painting of the the parting of the Red Sea for its dramatic merit, since the alternative would be a Hollywood still. I myself took the photos marked â€˜YWâ€™. I will try and have these changes made in the article itself when possible.
My gripe and my complaints come solely out of interest in the truth and i will always oppose all else.
I will try to be more gentle in my expression of this in the future.
Truth, eh? Ask yourself whether you are any more authentic than you imagine the Kolbrin to be. After all, you conceal your identity behind the disguise â€˜j373zâ€™, which to me sounds remarkably like R2D2. No offence - this is merely an observation.